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Simon Penson went from journalist to exited entrepreneur, building one of the UKâs fastest-growing digital agencies and selling it in a ÂŁ30m+ deal to one of the worldâs biggest advertising groups.
In this episode, he opens up about the hidden costs of scaling, from early hires who become blockers, to the harsh reality of earn-outs that can make or break your outcome.
Now through Scaled, Simon helps B2B companies and scale-ups navigate the same challenges, bringing the perspective of someone who has lived the highs and lows of growth.
This oneâs all about what really happens when growth hurts, and what it takes to get to the other side.
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Takeaways from Simonâs episode
1ď¸âŁ Early hires wonât always scale with you
The people who got you off the ground can become blockers later. Spot it early, have a plan, and know when to move them into the right role⌠or off the bus.
2ď¸âŁ Culture isnât a nice-to-have, itâs survival
Scaling breaks things fast. Without clear values and accountability, youâll carry people you shouldnât. The hard calls on culture usually come too late.
3ď¸âŁ Earn-outs are a trap if youâre not prepared
Donât separate price from terms. Structure interim payments, get specialist advice, and back yourself only if you control the levers that drive growth.
4ď¸âŁ Know your growth plateaus
Businesses donât scale in straight lines. Each stage brings a ceiling, breaking through means building specialist âgeneralsâ in ops, sales, finance, and strategy.
5ď¸âŁ Bootstrap vs raise is a life decision
Donât raise money for the sake of it. Sometimes a bootstrapped ÂŁ20m exit is better than chasing ÂŁ100m with heavy dilution. Define what success looks like for you.
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On Strategy by Boston Consulting Group â Simon credits this old-school classic with shaping how he thought about scaling in a structured way. It gave him a framework for understanding growth stages and building with intent, lessons he still draws on today even if the examples feel dated.
In this episode we cover:
00:00 Introduction to Simon Penson
02:03 From Journalism to Digital Entrepreneurship
05:00 Building and Scaling Zazzle
08:01 Navigating Growth Challenges
10:06 The Importance of Culture in Business
12:14 Merging for Success
15:33 Understanding Earn-Outs
18:46 Key Metrics for Business Valuation
21:05 Coaching and Investing in Startups
23:06 AI's Impact on Marketing
26:47 Rapid Fire Insights