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Simon Penson went from journalist to exited entrepreneur, building one of the UKโs fastest-growing digital agencies and selling it in a ยฃ30m+ deal to one of the worldโs biggest advertising groups.
In this episode, he opens up about the hidden costs of scaling, from early hires who become blockers, to the harsh reality of earn-outs that can make or break your outcome.
Now through Scaled, Simon helps B2B companies and scale-ups navigate the same challenges, bringing the perspective of someone who has lived the highs and lows of growth.
This oneโs all about what really happens when growth hurts, and what it takes to get to the other side.
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Takeaways from Simonโs episode
1๏ธโฃ Early hires wonโt always scale with you
The people who got you off the ground can become blockers later. Spot it early, have a plan, and know when to move them into the right roleโฆ or off the bus.
2๏ธโฃ Culture isnโt a nice-to-have, itโs survival
Scaling breaks things fast. Without clear values and accountability, youโll carry people you shouldnโt. The hard calls on culture usually come too late.
3๏ธโฃ Earn-outs are a trap if youโre not prepared
Donโt separate price from terms. Structure interim payments, get specialist advice, and back yourself only if you control the levers that drive growth.
4๏ธโฃ Know your growth plateaus
Businesses donโt scale in straight lines. Each stage brings a ceiling, breaking through means building specialist โgeneralsโ in ops, sales, finance, and strategy.
5๏ธโฃ Bootstrap vs raise is a life decision
Donโt raise money for the sake of it. Sometimes a bootstrapped ยฃ20m exit is better than chasing ยฃ100m with heavy dilution. Define what success looks like for you.
๐ Simonโs book recommendations
On Strategy by Boston Consulting Group โ Simon credits this old-school classic with shaping how he thought about scaling in a structured way. It gave him a framework for understanding growth stages and building with intent, lessons he still draws on today even if the examples feel dated.
In this episode we cover:
00:00 Introduction to Simon Penson
02:03 From Journalism to Digital Entrepreneurship
05:00 Building and Scaling Zazzle
08:01 Navigating Growth Challenges
10:06 The Importance of Culture in Business
12:14 Merging for Success
15:33 Understanding Earn-Outs
18:46 Key Metrics for Business Valuation
21:05 Coaching and Investing in Startups
23:06 AI's Impact on Marketing
26:47 Rapid Fire Insights













